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		<title>By: Lisa Geiger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa Geiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 04:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is also possible that Capitalism will destroy itself. I think we may be witnessing the collapsing of it right now. 

Animals - bees, ants, birds - seem to have social-economic systems that work better than ours because the welfare of the species is instinctual. It is like a heart beat. It is not about right or wrong, it is about life and death. 

The problem of Blue Baby Syndrome was solved by reverse engineering of a dog&#039;s heart. There were all kinds of people who thought that saving those babies lives was wrong, but one doctor did not, and he spotted the right person with the right hands at the right time, and we forget what an incredible discovery that was. Playing God? Why not, if we can.

This remarkable story is told in the film, Something the Lord Made

http://www.maintitles.net/reviews/something-the-lord-made/

www.dvdactive.com/reviews/dvd/something-the-lord-made.html

So my point... if the good is greater than the wrong, maybe that is what we have to accept. I don&#039;t think that is revolutionary thinking though. :).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is also possible that Capitalism will destroy itself. I think we may be witnessing the collapsing of it right now. </p>
<p>Animals &#8211; bees, ants, birds &#8211; seem to have social-economic systems that work better than ours because the welfare of the species is instinctual. It is like a heart beat. It is not about right or wrong, it is about life and death. </p>
<p>The problem of Blue Baby Syndrome was solved by reverse engineering of a dog&#8217;s heart. There were all kinds of people who thought that saving those babies lives was wrong, but one doctor did not, and he spotted the right person with the right hands at the right time, and we forget what an incredible discovery that was. Playing God? Why not, if we can.</p>
<p>This remarkable story is told in the film, Something the Lord Made</p>
<p><a href="http://www.maintitles.net/reviews/something-the-lord-made/" rel="nofollow">http://www.maintitles.net/reviews/something-the-lord-made/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.dvdactive.com/reviews/dvd/something-the-lord-made.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dvdactive.com/reviews/dvd/something-the-lord-made.html</a></p>
<p>So my point&#8230; if the good is greater than the wrong, maybe that is what we have to accept. I don&#8217;t think that is revolutionary thinking though. <img src='http://susanrosenthal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Rosenthal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Rosenthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wingnut: 

I believe you are referring to me resigning as a contributing editor from CJO and TPC, because I could not support their equation of animal liberation with human liberation. 

It was my mistake not to check out their politics more carefully before I agreed to become a contributing editor. 

I absolutely believe that solidarity is the best medicine. However, that doesn&#039;t mean unity with the capitalist class or with politics that play into their hands. 

The politics of animal liberation are based on moralism, which undermines class solidarity, for reasons I explain in POWER and Powerlessness. 

The best hope for all the animals on this planet, including the human animals, is to end capitalism. And that is something only the working class can do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wingnut: </p>
<p>I believe you are referring to me resigning as a contributing editor from CJO and TPC, because I could not support their equation of animal liberation with human liberation. </p>
<p>It was my mistake not to check out their politics more carefully before I agreed to become a contributing editor. </p>
<p>I absolutely believe that solidarity is the best medicine. However, that doesn&#8217;t mean unity with the capitalist class or with politics that play into their hands. </p>
<p>The politics of animal liberation are based on moralism, which undermines class solidarity, for reasons I explain in POWER and Powerlessness. </p>
<p>The best hope for all the animals on this planet, including the human animals, is to end capitalism. And that is something only the working class can do.</p>
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		<title>By: Wingnut</title>
		<link>http://susanrosenthal.com/articles/animal-rights-or-human-responsibilities/comment-page-1#comment-132</link>
		<dc:creator>Wingnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Susan!  Good writings, as always!

Now that you&#039;ve peeled-away from other dissident blogs and became your own(ed) entity, do you still cling-to the &quot;solidarity is the best medicine&quot; motto?  

See how &quot;solidarity&quot; becomes &quot;liquidity&quot; when, so easily, there is disagreement on the goals and priorities of/within a &quot;movement&quot;?  It took just one single characteristic (the definition of &quot;rights&quot;) in one single subject matter (animal rights) to make you liquidate... and leave the solidarity of other animal rights movements.

Solidarity probably still IS the best medicine, but it sure is difficult to accomplish solidarity, isn&#039;t it?

Good to see the new site up and running.  I&#039;ll come and visit from time to time, and I&#039;ll try not to be too much of a muckraker.  :)  Keep up the fine writing, lady!  Best/Warm regards, always.

Larry &quot;Wingnut&quot; Wendlandt
MaStars - Mothers Against Stuff That Ain&#039;t Right
(anti-capitalism-ists)
Bessemer MI USA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Susan!  Good writings, as always!</p>
<p>Now that you&#8217;ve peeled-away from other dissident blogs and became your own(ed) entity, do you still cling-to the &#8220;solidarity is the best medicine&#8221; motto?  </p>
<p>See how &#8220;solidarity&#8221; becomes &#8220;liquidity&#8221; when, so easily, there is disagreement on the goals and priorities of/within a &#8220;movement&#8221;?  It took just one single characteristic (the definition of &#8220;rights&#8221;) in one single subject matter (animal rights) to make you liquidate&#8230; and leave the solidarity of other animal rights movements.</p>
<p>Solidarity probably still IS the best medicine, but it sure is difficult to accomplish solidarity, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>Good to see the new site up and running.  I&#8217;ll come and visit from time to time, and I&#8217;ll try not to be too much of a muckraker.  <img src='http://susanrosenthal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Keep up the fine writing, lady!  Best/Warm regards, always.</p>
<p>Larry &#8220;Wingnut&#8221; Wendlandt<br />
MaStars &#8211; Mothers Against Stuff That Ain&#8217;t Right<br />
(anti-capitalism-ists)<br />
Bessemer MI USA</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 20:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>March 22/08

RIGHT on!</description>
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<p>RIGHT on!</p>
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